Well, I'm proud to announce that I'm an official member of the Muskegon Pigeon Racing Club! I have bands and I'll be kicking some butt this year.....LOL Just got back from a meeting where I listend to a bunch of guys argue for a couple hours and had someone tell me I know nothing about selection! It was great! Seriously, I had a good time laughing at the guys, they were cracking me up. In case anyone from Michigan reads this board I have to put in a Thank you to Jim and Dale of the Muskegon club for helping me get started, these two guys are topps in my book and I'm glad to have met them. Good luck eveyone on the comming year, I'll keep you updated as to my progress even if you don't want to know.

Later,
Termite

By Roly (62.253.32.5 - 62.253.32.5) on Saturday, February 08, 2003 - 05:05 am: Edit

oh gaud ....... lol

By Myron (205.188.208.75 - 205.188.208.75) on Saturday, February 08, 2003 - 07:34 am: Edit

GOOD LUCK MARK,

KICK ASS & DON'T LOOK BACK

By Termite (198.92.74.160 - 198.92.74.160) on Saturday, February 08, 2003 - 11:39 am: Edit

Roly,
Thanks man, knew I could count on you for support..LOL

Thanks Myron.

Termite

By Billytaylor (64.221.12.106 - 64.221.12.106) on Saturday, February 08, 2003 - 02:27 pm: Edit

Termite good luck and have fun. Congratulate the winners and do some strutting when you win. All in fun. Listen carefully as the winners tell all how they won, the champ being down from a long line of BelgX or such. Sympathize with the guy who says he would have won had the dog not chased the cat past the loft as he was trying to trap. But dont whine. Listen with your ears and not your mouth and you will get better. Lets race. Bye BillyT

By Marvin (64.21.209.192 - 64.21.209.192) on Saturday, February 08, 2003 - 02:40 pm: Edit

BillyT, how about putting that dog and cat in the soup and leaving Roly's bird to fly again. LOL

By Roly (62.253.32.5 - 62.253.32.5) on Saturday, February 08, 2003 - 09:31 pm: Edit

One should remember you have to learn the disappointment and take them well, and remember them in order to win with grace. And keep your on the ground.

By Bear (144.138.77.84 - 144.138.77.84) on Sunday, February 09, 2003 - 12:18 am: Edit

One thing about pigeon racing, it really does not let you get to big a head, You can win the Fed one week and run last in your club the next, your feet come down to earth very quick, well at least your backside does, you land flat on it soon as soon as you think you know it all. If you ever get to the stage that you think you know it all sell the birds and pull the loft down because you really know nothing. With pigeon racing you should continue to learn all the time.
I won my first race back in 1961 and have been racing vitually ever since and I think I know about 5% of what there is to learn, perhaps if I live to 100 I might learn another 5%.
Maybe I am a slow leanrer but do not think that is the case.

By Jimmyoz (198.142.63.156 - 198.142.63.156) on Sunday, February 09, 2003 - 04:17 am: Edit

Bear,
The more I know, the more I realise I know less than what I thought I did.

To quote the good book (Ecclesiastes 1:18):
For in much wisdom is much grief: and he who increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

Therefore, I'll stay ignorant & just accept the forces of adversity & whinge like 95% of most flyers. I won't read anything on this site, ignore the ARPJ & other mags as "Southern or foreign crud that don't apply here."

Aye, I shall tread blissfully knowing nought - for to learn more will be to risk the scorn of those who I contradict & question.

Jimmyoz

By Fouram (161.184.21.221 - 161.184.21.221) on Sunday, February 09, 2003 - 12:10 pm: Edit

I too, Jimmyoz, think that I will stop asking questions, as I have been told on a few occasions, when I have been in a position to answer a question with an answer given to me by someone on this or-perhaps another site, or referenced that person's answer, only to be told that I do not know what I am talking about, or conversely I should be ignored, because it is only my "opinion" and I ramble. I must laugh and shake my head when this happens --as the person has just stated that they know NOTHING, I am quoting them either directly, or indirectly--I love those people that jump into a pile of manure with both feet, slip and fall on their pratts!!! LOL--So rather than have these poor people ridicule themselves, by answering my questions, and making a fool of themselves--(poor souls) I will stop asking questions---just in case I get to know even LESS---Al

By Jimmyoz (198.142.248.126 - 198.142.248.126) on Sunday, February 09, 2003 - 03:51 pm: Edit

Fouram,

Sargeant Schultz Theory - I know nothing

Actually there are a lot of people here who will help & give great advice. Just laugh at the jokers & fling back the dung. Life is too short to get upset about insults from the grumpy ol' fellas. I think they mean little harm, rather it is a game to play whilst they are waiting for the call to the great loft in the sky or the cull hole in the ground.

Jimmyoz

By Billytaylor (64.221.10.62 - 64.221.10.62) on Sunday, February 09, 2003 - 04:07 pm: Edit

Fourflush, you are your own worst enemy. Of course your questions will be answered by somebody. Be selective in who you believe. Let your ego and emotions go rampant. Soon you will become an expert like us all without ever racing a bird. There are many such on here who dont race but are gurus. Why shouldnt you join this elite? But of course you wont take my advise about getting into fighting chickens. I see you already are a judgement of humanity of who is the best man, meeting neither. Hell you are now in your element. Suck up and butt kissing will insure you a place on the cross. Lets race. Bye BillyT

By Bear (144.138.77.199 - 144.138.77.199) on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 03:49 am: Edit

Billy,
That is where I am lucky St. Peter once approached me and asked me the name of my first wife, and when I told him he said OH MY GOD YOU HAVE HAD YOUR SHARE OF HELL YOU WILL BE ALLOWED INTO HEAVEN, so I am lucky in that I do not have to kiss butts to go to heaven

By Mealy (138.253.119.102 - 138.253.119.102) on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 04:10 am: Edit

Jim Oz

we will give the Aussies a lesson in a proper sport this wednesday, Football.

Ps i dont count cricket as a proper sport

By Jimmyoz (210.49.123.138 - 210.49.123.138) on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 04:13 pm: Edit

Mealy,
You probably will. But then again Socccer in Oz is a laughing stock. Soccer is for the working class & latino yob & for people who want to die watching sport.

Gimmee Cricket anyday.

Jimmmyoz

By Roly (62.253.32.5 - 62.253.32.5) on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 05:28 pm: Edit

Well that may be true Jimmy .. But then again Cricket is only play by the 'Upper Crust cissies and Women' here, so I think our little girls do well enough , Considering the bribes that they take lol.
I Did the entertainment for a 'Posh' upper crust do yesterday. In the speech via the Man (70) who's do it was, he recalled the time - he spends aparently quite a lot of time in Assuie land - Brain Dead?!! ) each year two or three times. Told of the time when he went to the Pub after the Brits had been beaten via the back boys. Amid te smirks and self indulgence crap and snides of 'Did your team turn up'? and Why did they bother etc. He Replied. 'Of course and it's bleeding obvious ent tit'!
Asked why? he replied 'Because you bleeders and Talking to me ... If you hadn't have one I would have been totally ignored' And that does reflect the sportsmanship of the Assies I'm afraid.
Every time a good cricketer shows them up. From Bowlers like Tyson, Hall Linwood, larking, grittis etc. etc. they have cried baby and tried or succeeded in geting them banned etc. Sure don't like it up them.
There again they have always been regarded as the worst sportsmen of OUR Empire. Lol

By Termite (198.92.74.157 - 198.92.74.157) on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 07:57 pm: Edit

Man, you guys sure do get off track....fighting chickens, football, cricket, soccer...BOWLING????
Cracks me up...LOL

Termite ;)

By Billytaylor (64.221.10.139 - 64.221.10.139) on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 09:03 pm: Edit

Termite and we havent even gotten into how Fredricks of Hollywood can get out cocks motivated. Listen and learn, dummy or get back on play station 2. Lets race. Bye BillyT

By Sunset (170.224.224.102 - 170.224.224.102) on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 09:38 pm: Edit

Termite you have a problem. From what I have read on this string your problem is that your answers are coming from older guys who loose connection with the subject, then proceed to pound the keyboard hoping the mind will kick in gear before they doze off. Even with in a state of big time ZZZZ the fingers still hit the keyboard. Not so much to give good advise but more to say " I am the best in the west" But like most things in life those who give advise with one hand and shoot you down with the other require serious evaluation or a change of medications.

By Mealy (138.253.119.100 - 138.253.119.100) on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 04:08 am: Edit

Jimmy oz

Seems like you Aussies need drugs to win eh.
Sorry it was probably the cough medicine. Where will you be without Shanie boy

By Roly (62.253.32.5 - 62.253.32.5) on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 06:10 am: Edit

Always knew by his antics hew was .. Thought it was lack of TWO half brains causing conflict lol.
But ... there you go.
Any way good luck you assies on coming games, hope you do well!
... personally we couldn't give a fickled rats tail.... Bet that any games on telly we be by far the lowest watced....

By Roly (62.253.32.5 - 62.253.32.5) on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 06:13 am: Edit

Sunset ..... you go steady there, might lose that walking stick. Or fall backwards and swallow yourselve.... Guys YOUR age should know better lol.

By Roly (62.253.32.5 - 62.253.32.5) on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 06:16 am: Edit

Besides us old ones do tend to give knowledgeable, and honest advice, mostly with a lot of connected expierence related. Either via own or actual friends, colleagues.
And don't surf the net to find apt topics to relate too..... And you know what! Some have achieved a little, seen a lot, and know somethings.

By Mealy (138.253.119.102 - 138.253.119.102) on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 06:17 am: Edit

Roly.

The Janssens are looking in sparkling form now. added an avairy to the end section so they can get out in the elements and get a bath. They are all down on eggs now apart from the blue and blue white flight. The slatey cock has blossomed in to an excellent pigeon wish i had a loft full of birds like him, he has what i look for in a bird.

have my electric fence up now also, but the unfortunate part is it keeps killing the toads that frequent the garden, but it is excellent for the cats. Got my first four young birds weaned of the season and all the loft apart from some more perches is finally finished just got my orders to tidy the garden up as it looks like a mud bath. Are you erecting your new loft or are you keeping the one you already have?

By Roly (62.253.32.5 - 62.253.32.5) on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 06:18 am: Edit

As for Termite, I'd rather have him with us than against us down the old folks home. PROVIDED he knows how to buy the rounds of ACHOHOLICS BEVERAGES.

By Roly (62.253.32.5 - 62.253.32.5) on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 11:08 am: Edit

Glad to hear it John. Me! Well I may fix the hole in the roof....May lol. As for that I can't see there being much difference I guess.
Getting rid of excess birds this week - end.
Mentioned it to a mate like... had a few enquiries wanting to try them since lol. So seems they may be going Liecester. the old quip 'How much... well if your not wanting them'! lol.
No giving them away like. Miss them I will for a ... day or two like. But will then be down to 18 pairs. Might curb that to 16 and that would leave me a Young bird section.... Have only got the three sections as you know. So one end for Hens. The other for cocks and middle for the Y/B's.
Will seperate after the young are 14 days old.
Leave them with the hens.
Cocks will have the Nest boxes in their side to guard. So any week I will be albe to fly either W/H cock or hen ... or quickly turn to natural. Just use the early races as Training tosses they are mostly 100 - 150 miles so any can go straight in any time. Save training. Will save some for the Straight in at 300 milers. I think they react great to that if loft fit. By then will have the Distance races programe in for all the birds. Most will compete in two distance races I hope.

By Termite (35.9.89.28 - 35.9.89.28) on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 11:42 am: Edit

Sunset,

I'm glad you cleared that up....LOL. I learned the first day that I posted here these guys are just angry people. I figured they must just be realy hungry because the little wheels on their walkers have rusted and they can't go to the kitchen to get any pudding (or other soft food). So they call me names and it makes them feel better. It's ok, now that I know what is going on, it don't realy bother me. It was fairly suprising getting blind-sided that first day though...

Termite

By Billytaylor (64.221.12.226 - 64.221.12.226) on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 02:09 pm: Edit

Termite you should have been to my 50th High School reunion. EMS vehicles took up most of the parking lot. Gurneys side by side. Catered oatmeal and metamusal. Only two 911 calls just before the dance. Both of us survivors had a grand time before the heirs pulled the plugs. Lets race. Bye BillyT

By Roly (62.253.32.5 - 62.253.32.5) on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 05:55 pm: Edit

I really thing it's time really was spelt really instead of realy .. really! lol

By Fouram (161.184.23.131 - 161.184.23.131) on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 06:18 pm: Edit

What was the "thing" you were mentioning, Roly?Oh--is that Somerset for "think" ???I had a feeling that you were from that neck of the woods--LOLAl

By Roly (62.253.32.5 - 62.253.32.5) on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 06:27 pm: Edit

Geaaahhh

By Fouram (161.184.23.131 - 161.184.23.131) on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 06:56 pm: Edit

Do you like the "Scrumpy"?--I have had it--but I feel it kind of "sucks"--LOL--Al

By Jimmyoz (198.142.59.170 - 198.142.59.170) on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 03:16 am: Edit

Mealy,
Pakistan taken care of - bring on the Motherland.
Jimmyoz

By Mealy (138.253.119.100 - 138.253.119.100) on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 04:13 am: Edit

Jim Only just me old mate.

from what i saw the Aussie bowlers where being whacked for fours and sixes quite easily. I feel England are probably one of the worst teams in the comp but will still give the sheep shearers a run for their money

By Roly (62.253.32.5 - 62.253.32.5) on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 06:36 am: Edit

Sheep shearers ! you mean sheep ....
Deffinition - loverely spelling that especially for the assie..... Deffinition of a vigin sheep ... one that can run faster that the assuie sheppard' ! No wonder they are so fit ... and the assuies lol.

By Bear (144.138.77.216 - 144.138.77.216) on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 07:01 am: Edit

Jimmyoz, Have you seen where England are going to play 22 players to our 11??? You would think that they would at least play 33!!!!!!

By Bear (144.138.77.216 - 144.138.77.216) on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 07:05 am: Edit

We could not pick 33 Aussies to play for us we do not have that many that play the game.
Although I suppose we could get some of the old soccer players out of the Mental hospital. They are there with brain damage from hitting the ball with their head all the time.
Suppose that is where I will finish up to with brain damage from hitting my head against the wall with bad traps.

By Mealy (138.253.119.100 - 138.253.119.100) on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 07:32 am: Edit

Bear, try the drug rehab centre sure to find some cricketers in there. we may need 33 but at least they do not need drugs then to top it all off blame poor old Mum.

the reason you are so good with the cricket bat is that we look at it as a pussies game and we kicked out all the pussies with the convicts LOL

By Bear (144.138.77.216 - 144.138.77.216) on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 07:47 am: Edit

Meally , The opposite out here , the pussies play soccer, the real men play Aussie Rules, ones that are not quite good enough to play Aussie Rules but are reasonabbly intelligent play Rugby Union, the rest play Rugby League and as I said the pussies play soccer

By Mealy (138.253.119.102 - 138.253.119.102) on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 08:38 am: Edit

Right on Bear.

To play the aussie rules you need something missing, that sums it up for me. These must be the convicts, and the cricketers the english pussies, and the footballers the aussie pussies.

rugby here in england was and possibly still is regarded as an middle class sport with the footballers the working class. I know i would rather be a pussy playing football than AR, as who earns the most.

Thanks for the banter, glad you are not offended as some people do get.

Where do pigeon fanciers fit in to the equation. Talking about Aussies i have a pigeon video entitled "racing pigeons the davo way" have yuo seen it. And do most fanciers race the celibate system in Aus

By Mreyesign (198.81.19.34 - 198.81.19.34) on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 12:44 pm: Edit

I've been here now for going on 20 years and would you believe that I havent seen one game of cricket since I got here. I would pay $$$$ to see even a good one day game. Sob Sob.

By Jimmyoz (198.142.247.154 - 198.142.247.154) on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 03:31 pm: Edit

Poor Bob,
Life without cricket. Mealy, I remember something about Linford Christie......ummmm yeah.

Bear,
Quit upsetting the Motherland. Let them live their life in their Geordie cold & die in the Terraces watching Sheffield Tuesday play Yobbo United.

Jimmyoz

By Roly (62.253.32.5 - 62.253.32.5) on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 03:40 pm: Edit

Lol. Geah and talk of 33 players. we haven't sent any in reality.
Any body here that dosen't have a limp wrist or has gone 'Public School' isn't eligable to play cricket.
Besides we like after a game for banter and good quip.. not silks and bad lanquange when beaten. So as your 'Soviegn rulers, we have to take note and let the spoilt brats have their way. Crikey they would .... daren't imagine!

By Roly (62.253.32.5 - 62.253.32.5) on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 03:41 pm: Edit

Sorry SULKS AND TEARS WITH bad lan....

By Billytaylor (64.221.10.43 - 64.221.10.43) on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 04:01 pm: Edit

Bob we know you have not missed cricket, as we can all see you are an expert pocket pool player without the benefit of a wicket. Lets race. Bye BillyT

By Jimmyoz (198.142.246.50 - 198.142.246.50) on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 01:52 am: Edit

Mealy,
England: 1 ; Australia:3
12 February 2003. The day English Soccer died. The mighty have been slain by # 50 in the world.
Advance Australia Fair.
Now for Darts & Snooker.
Jimmyoz
Convict #1.

By Bear (144.138.77.173 - 144.138.77.173) on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 03:07 am: Edit

Lucky we only sent over the pussies LOL
Tiddlewinks maybe a good game?????
Sorry Meally and Roly but we do not have much joy when it comes to soccer

By Mealy (138.253.119.101 - 138.253.119.101) on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 04:18 am: Edit

Bear and Oz this humble pie is really tasty. Rub it in as much as you can I deserve it!!!!!!!

By Mreyesign (152.163.201.214 - 152.163.201.214) on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 04:37 am: Edit

The Aussies did well in the world cup?????????Time is all we need now. Sure we will never be a Manchester United. (who ever will) but, we can get up amongst the best of the not so perfect as they are. >

By Mealy (138.253.119.101 - 138.253.119.101) on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 05:04 am: Edit

Mr eye

do you mean World cup as in football??????
If so Aussies did not qualify, correct me if im wrong..

By Mealy (138.253.119.101 - 138.253.119.101) on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 05:06 am: Edit

Bear And Jim Oz

you didnt answer my question re Celibate system and the Davo way

By Roly (62.253.32.5 - 62.253.32.5) on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 05:23 am: Edit

Any way Congratulations you Assie bums on beating the English lads..... Well done, and what's more you deserved to win.
I noted that you had 8 English Premieship lads in the side, NO mean feat. Players that most clubs would be pleased to have. High class and worthy players to be sure.

By Bear (144.138.77.173 - 144.138.77.173) on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 06:05 am: Edit

What makes me proud to be an Aussie, Roly & Meally, is that our whole population is 20 million. That is around the same as the population of London and I think less than the population of LA in the US.
We love our sport.
Re Davo Meally, He is a great guy and a great pigeon fancier. I am pleased to call him a friend, he was here at my home a few weeks before Xmas and shortly myself and my wife will be visiting him and his wife June in NSW. He lives around 700 miles from me.
Yes the majority of Aussie fliers fly celibrate.
But when you stop and think about it, it is not widowhood as the pairs are not mated, but most race their sexes from different sections of the loft but when they arrive home the cocks and the hens are together for at least a few hours to please themselves.
We race mainly during winter and in the southern states it is cold and the cocks do not show a great interest in the hens. however here in Queensland even during winter the daily temp. does not normally go below 22C and a few fanciers that have the time fly a version of Widowhood and are very successful.

By Mealy (138.253.119.102 - 138.253.119.102) on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 06:46 am: Edit

Thanks Bear.

Have you seen the video?

By Bear (144.138.77.173 - 144.138.77.173) on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 06:56 am: Edit

Yes Meally, I have the video and watch it every so often, but as I said I am a friend of Davo so am lucky in that I can phone him every now and then to check on things with him as there are a lot of things he does that are not mentioned in the video.

By Bear (144.138.77.173 - 144.138.77.173) on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 07:09 am: Edit

I think as you become more experienced Meally, I think from what you have said you are fairly new to the sport, you will find that there is no one great secret thing the very good flyers do that the also rans do not do but lots of little things and that is what makes Davo better than most.

By Mreyesign (64.12.106.28 - 64.12.106.28) on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 01:09 pm: Edit

Mealy. It was the time before that they did well. You're right, but as I said, give us time. And think about this. You have 175 million to select from, we have around 20 million. That makes a hell of a difference in all and any sport. So in a way you guy's are the MOB flyers with BIG teams to select your 20 entries from???????? .

By Billytaylor (64.221.10.35 - 64.221.10.35) on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 02:12 pm: Edit

Roly have 4 hens set for the hidden cock w/h system. Had planned on five but the young hen I thought was a hen was not. Let you and Bristow know how it works out this OB season. Lets race. Bye BillyT

By Wayne (205.188.208.75 - 205.188.208.75) on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 03:17 pm: Edit

Billy- Can't beleive you are flying W/H. Next, you will be using eyesign to cull.

Wayne

By Jimmyoz (198.142.246.239 - 198.142.246.239) on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 03:37 pm: Edit

Mealy/ Roly,
May it be the start of a new Anglo/Oz rivalry..
Bear, you are spot on right. Well before the start of last season, I started to change things in the way I managed the birds. There were something like 23 changes. All small & incremental. I only flew about 9 races & got 7 or 8 places. I won 2 & should have one a 3rd except for a dropped clock. It wasn't the propolis or the other honey derivatives or other little Beyer products(free ad, neither was it the change in diet or the multiple tossing. It was Sigma - the sum total.
Jimmyoz

By Roly (62.253.32.5 - 62.253.32.5) on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 04:44 pm: Edit

Well I see the number of our population has increased 10 fold since yesterday . knew a lot of emigrate has got in. Golly Bob that figure is more that England Scotland, WALES and Northern Ireland put to gether.
GREAT BRITAIN is about 60 million with the FOUR nations. Golly.
Now lets also take nothing away from the Ausies, THEY came to win and played as such. Yes they are mostly in our premier sides.
But on the other hand - besides they work load, the English motivation was lacing on several accounts, not least that many were to play 45 minutes tops and many even less. Also the amount of boys we put in... many in the teens, 3 17 - 18 year olds alone etc. etc. But excuses etc. are irrelevant and meaningless. Tomorrow the story like the records will show, and that is what is to count. So I won't harp on about all the new faces being tried out and never played together etc. etc.
Well done Assuies . but I can't see - or rather hope lol - it becoming a habbit. And the bribe we took was great for Assies confidence and a real booster. Has happen before though. America for instance ....

By Roly (62.253.32.5 - 62.253.32.5) on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 04:47 pm: Edit

London is 7 million, and like I said 'Beating our lads' lol. Women next then the men .. crikey I'm begining to worry lol.

By Billytaylor (64.221.9.219 - 64.221.9.219) on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 05:54 pm: Edit

Wayne I know a lot think I dont listen, but spent a week with Roly last summer in the midlands and he took me to see some champs. Besides seeing this plonker put the hurts on the whiners also picked up a hint or two from some of his buds. Bristow had 8 hens on the hidden cock w/h system and all had multiple federation wins, thats against 15000 or more pigeons. Saw the gold medalians around his neck. May be a rock but can be impressed and I was. Eyesign, who said pigeons even need eyes? Sounds like a canard. Good to hear from you. Lets race. Bye BillyT

By Pats (199.216.112.2 - 199.216.112.2) on Friday, February 14, 2003 - 11:15 am: Edit

"Hidden cock w/h system" How does this work?

By Billytaylor (64.221.8.137 - 64.221.8.137) on Friday, February 14, 2003 - 01:23 pm: Edit

Pats Roly knows more about it than I do. Roly explain. Might help someone. Where are you flying Pats. You may benefit from the system but it will not replace traditional w/h. First OB season I am trying so cant say it will work in Texas. My thoughts. Lets race. Bye BillyT

By Roly (62.253.32.5 - 62.253.32.5) on Friday, February 14, 2003 - 07:29 pm: Edit

Well it would replace t / w/h in fact it simply and in reality does.
Also offers other roads to go down.

By Mreyesign (198.81.26.71 - 198.81.26.71) on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 02:04 am: Edit

As most of you know I am also an avid car racing buff especially sports cars, and am glad to report that BENTLEY (BRITISH) Have finally broken the strangle hold that Audi had on the 24 hours of Le Mans.

Jaguar did it many times for England over the years and especially when Mercedes dominated for a while, but now from basically the same stable the Bentley is back racing big time. With only 7 hours to go I think I can say, Well Done Bentley, and there's an Aussie (Sir Jack Brabhams son) amongst the winning team of drivers.

By Roly (62.253.32.5 - 62.253.32.5) on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 09:22 am: Edit

Aye and the our Rugby boys beat New Zealand... only the second time there in 30 years.

By Roly (62.253.32.5 - 62.253.32.5) on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 05:00 pm: Edit

Well This about somes it up.

The letter below is an actual letter sent to a bank in the United States.
The bank manager thought it amusing enough to have it published in the New York Times.

Dear Sir:
I am writing to thank you for bouncing my cheque with which I endeavoured to pay my plumber last month. By my calculations some 30 minutes must have elapsed between his presenting the check and the arrival in my account of the funds needed to honour it. I refer of course to the automatic monthly deposit of my entire salary, an arrangement, which admittedly has only
been in place for eight years. You are to be commended for seizing that brief window of opportunity, and also for debiting my account by $50 by way of penalty for the inconvenience I caused to your bank. My thankfulness springs from the manner in which this incident has caused me to rethink my errant financial ways. You have set me on the path of fiscal righteousness.
No more will our relationship be blighted by these unpleasant incidents for I am restructuring my affairs in 2003, taking as my model the procedures, attitudes and conduct of your very bank. I can think of no greater compliment and I know you will be excited and proud to hear it. To this end, please be advised of the following changes:
I have noticed that whereas I personally attend to your telephone calls and letters, when I try to contact you, I am confronted by the impersonal,
ever-changing, pre-recorded, faceless entity, which your bank has become.
From now on I, like you, choose only to deal with a flesh-and-blood person.
My mortgage and loan repayments will, therefore and hereafter, no longer be automatic, but will arrive at your bank, via cheque, addressed personally and confidentially to an employee at your branch whom you must nominate. You will be aware that it is an offence under the Postal Act for any other person to open such an envelope.
Please find attached an Application Contact Status, which I require your chosen employee to complete. I am sorry it runs to eight pages, but in order that I know as much about him or her as your bank knows about me, there is no alternative.
Please note that all copies of his or her medical history must be countersigned by a Notary Public, and the mandatory details of his/her financial situation (income, debts, Assets and liabilities) must be accompanied by documented proof. In due course I will issue your employee with a PIN number, which he/she must quote in dealings with me. I regret that it cannot be shorter than 28 digits but, again, I have modelled it on the number of button presses required to access my account balance on your phone bank service.
As they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Let me level the playing field even further by introducing you to my new telephone system, which you will notice, is very much like yours. My
Authorized Contact at your bank, the only person with whom I will have any dealings, may call me at any time and will be answered by an automated
voice service. Press buttons as follows:
1. To make an appointment to see me.
2. To query a missing payment.
3. To transfer the call to my living room in case I am there.
4. To transfer the call to my bedroom in case I am sleeping.
5. To transfer the call to my toilet in case I am attending to nature.
6. To transfer the call to my mobile phone if I am not at home.
7. To leave a message on my computer, a password to access my computer is required. Password will be communicated at a later date to the Authorized
Contact.
8. To return to the main menu and to listen to options 1 through 7.
9. To make a general complaint or inquiry.
The contact will then be put on hold, pending the attention of my automated answering service. While this may on occasion involve a lengthy wait,
uplifting music will play for the duration of the call. This month I've chosen a refrain from "The Best of Woodie Guthrie": "Oh, the banks are made of marble, With a guard at every door, And the vaults are filled with silver, That the miners sweated for".
On a more serious note, we come to the matter of cost. As your bank has often pointed out, the ongoing drive for greater efficiency comes at a
cost, which you have always been quick to pass on to me. Let me repay your kindness by passing some costs back.
First, there is a matter of advertising material you send me. This I will read for a fee of $20 per page. Inquiries from the Authorized Contact will be billed at $5 per minute of my time spent in response.
New phone service runs at 75 cents a minute. You will be well advised to keep your inquiries brief and to the point.
Regrettably, but again following your example, I must also levy an establishment fee to cover the setting up of this new arrangement.
May I wish you a happy, if ever-so-slightly less prosperous, New Year?

Your Humble Client,
(Name Withheld)